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Old 08-20-2006, 07:47 PM
Megenoita Megenoita is offline
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Default Re: 89s Tourney Hand--please advise

I don't doubt that that might be true, but I wouldn't push any of those hands in this spot at this table. I believe I'd have better equity if I did not push here, but waited for one of the next few hands, than to push 89s against 2 limpers and active blinds.

So to me, the choice was between folding and calling. Normally if I'm not going to push here, I'm just going to fold. But because the table was so passive, there was a great chance I would be able to see the flop. Given that I'll flop a FD+, 2p+ about 1/5 times, I DO have good implied odds, especially at this table where I might triple up if I push a hand like a pair and a draw.

I think it's funny that more than one person has said I don't have implied odds. I'm risking 200 to double up or triple up if I flop well, and other good things might happen such as it gets checked to me and I take it down, or I check through and get a free card or two. To fold 89s on the BTN when it's likely to be 4-5 handed would be a mistake IMO.

As the flop came, when I pushed, I put in about 39.6% of the money and I had 36.5% equity against the TT that took up most of his time and eventually called. If he would fold just 4% of the time, my play was +EV. As it turns out, it was basically break even EV to double up.
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