[Rocco]

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You should have bet the flop that's 4sure... but once the all in bet is made, it's big enough that you CAN get away from it. You have to look at, what are you actually beating here? You said he;s (loose-passive?) or was it aggressive? either way your not beating a pair and certainly haven't got the pot odds to call to make your flush. And if you do hit it, one of his likely holdings is A-10os with the ace of diamonds.

Your can only b eat a complete bluff.... FOLD!

And was this a cash game or tournament? Either way the decision is exactly the same.

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I sure have odds to call IF I can count my outs as clean, the question is if I can. Even if I take away some outs, I still have odds to call. My pot odds are almost 3 to 1 here (calling 12300 to win 33500). Let's look at some scenarios.

1. CO has AT (not the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]) - I have 20 outs (three 7:s, three Q:s, two J:s, three K:s and diamonds... 1.3 to 1)

2. CO has two pair - I have 15 outs (2.1 to 1)

3. CO has AT (or any card w A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] as kicker) - I have 11 outs (3.2 to 1).

4. CO has made a straight - I have 12 outs (Q:s gives me a higher straight... 2.8 to 1)

5. CO has made a flush - I'm either drawing dead or have 7 outs (5.6 to 1)

Question is which of the above holdings I can put him on and how likely each holding is? In case 1 and 2, I definitely have odds to call. In case 3 and 4 it's close and in case 5 I don't have odds... What do people do here? Take a gamble? If I lose I'm down to 9000 in chips and an M of 6...