[sheetsworld]

Ok , since you asked...this is what is going on here...

Seat 4 folds, not an entirely insignificant thing, as the big stacks disappearance from the hand opens it up for other people to be aggreesive. For example, seat 5 may have been frustrated with seat 4's constant raising ahead of him, and is all too ready, willing, and able to be the aggressor himself. Again I wasn't there but this could be what was happening... So he raises it up with QT, fully expecting to steal the blinds and move along...but wait, as gigabet is in the bb there is very little chance that seat 5 really believes he will in fact win the blinds, so he instantly regrets his decision to open raise in this spot, and begins worrying whether or if he can flop something or outplay gigabet when he eventually calls the raise....

Now seat 6 with a shortish stack calls the raise, a strange thing in itself from relatively early postion AGAINST an ep raiser. This is either a wishful type of call hoping he will flop something really good agianst what will now be a host of players, but I would interpret this as a pretty big hand looking for someone else to try a squeeze play anabling her to double up and more with something real big.

Nonetheless, the 40k chip stack in seat 7 figures "what the hell", everyone else is gonna be callin anyway, so i may as well, despite the fact that I only have 4-8 off suit...seat 8 being short , having nothing, and no fold equity, opts out,...then the button , getitng a million-1 odds and in postion, may as well call with his 2-6 off...The sb faces a similar problem to seat 8, as even a complete of the raise damages his stack and he aint getting anyone to fold, so he passes.....gigabet, being gigabet, also getting 10000000-1 and probably making similar reads as I just made, calls, knowing that he can make a pretty easy interpreatation of how the flop and turn helped or hurt the participants, and who knows, maybe he flops something cool.....

So the flop comes 7-7-J rainbow..gigabet first to act really cant afford to bet and lose everyone ,and there is a good enough chance that someone hit a jack or had a small pair or who would be willing to bluff at it that he can go for some kind of check raise or check call or a number of things...I doubt that leading out would be good....seat 5 is kind of sick to his stomach as he just wanted to steal the blinds or maybe face one opponent,...he would like to make a contunation bet but there are too many people in the pot to expect to get through them so he says f it Ill just check and watch what happens....Seat 6 who was hoping for a big pot, got what he asked for in some way, but he is either way ahead or way behind here...he has committed himself to this excursion, so he can either bet and hope someone has a Jack, or check and hope someone bluffs or has a Jack or a pair....so he checks...everyone else has nothing or a 7, so everyone checks behind...(gigabet now rooting for a Jack so he can kill himself).


Turn comes a Qh putting 2 hearts out there....

gigabet checks again...now I myself would not give a free card to anyone who might have 2 hearts out there, but again if gig really wants to represent a bluff when he does eventually bet this hand, checking is prbably the best way to do it...gig feels the tension at the table and really believes someone is gonna be forced to take a shot at this pot even if they dont have anything....

So now our original raiser cant take it anymore...he cuaght his top pair and no one has bet yet...there is just no way in his mind that he could be behind...thank god he caught a queen...so away we go,,,he is gonna bet this, and as noone has anything, he is gonna take it down..so he reaches down for some chips and throws out 4000...he didnt really count what was in the pot, or whether he was betting too little or whatever, because in his mind it doesnt matter....he caught top pair, no one else has [censored], and whatevr he bets is gonna be either enough to get folds, or small enough to get people with worse hands to call, either way, he feels fine...

Seat 6 pushes allin for the last 12k of his stack...he EITHER, had been slowplaying an overpair and finally has enough in the pot where he can shove it in and win a big pot..OR....he has a flush draw or a smaller pair, interprets seat 5s bet as a very weak bluff and can either get him to fold or perhaps beat him anyway after everyone else folds...

Seat 7 and seat 1 obv fold....

gigabet interprets the action pretty much as I have, and goes allin, fully expecting:
1.Seat 5 to realize he is beat, be happy he only led out for 4k and fold instantly,...and...

2.Seat 6 to have an overpair or some other pair or perhaps a flush draw , in either case making gig a huge facorite, so he pushes.


Now it is on seat 5...who basically says "HOLY [censored] [censored] WHAT THE HELL DID I DO?". Now begins a very common process among many poker players where he begins to create a way for him to call...this has been a very tense hand, alot has been going on, and if there is anyway to be a participannt right to the end, he is gonna do it,,,,so first he tries to calculate pot odds...its what everyone does whether they can do it or not, and its also a good way to stall , contemplating whther they should have ever player poker at all....he cant really count all of the chips in there, including what will be a sidepot...he just knows that its a lot...i mean its ALOT!!!!!... Then he looks at his cards and sees he has top pair...and then begins to invent all these ways that top pair is good...

"ok first of all gigabet is an idiot..he [censored] reraises allin in step 5 higher tourneys with q-2 KNOWING he is way behind...he bluffed off half his chips on the bubble of bellagio 5 diamond against JJ who obviously had him beat,,,this kid is just a plain maniac and he could have any number of secind best hands here....and the small stack?..[censored] him...he got involved in a pot with a shortish stack and now is obviously making a big move at the pot...

I know that they COULD have me beat, but there is way too much in there(whatever it is) for me to concede that point...and also, i am afraid i would have to kill myself if i fold and gig turns over 4-4 and seat 6 turns over a flush draw...so I call.


Darrell then announces that his hand cant be good, fully expecting seat 5 to turn over A7 or JJ. He is mistaken.

This is what I think is going on here.


sheets