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Old 01-20-2006, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: If only they were aces...

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Fold, kiss your 1600 happily goodbye. Difficult to put the SB on a hand here with the info you've got, maybe 2 overcards (JK, JQ?)or Ax. The BB isn't really under pressure with 800 committed. The facts here - button raises 3xBB, BB goes all-in. Initial raise might be a steal attempt but could be a legit hand and with the all-in from the BB i suspect 1 of them has a strong hand which, against potentially 2 hands, puts you in bad shape. Your pot odds are terrible so wait for a better opportunity to gamble.

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Oh come one, lets have some real discussion here. Thats just so weak minded its painful to read. You really assume a monster from a button raise and SB shove? I hope your sitting in the BB everytime i push 78h vs an aggro button.

If we ignore the button for now, as i think if we push, he folds most of the time anyway - we need to put sb on a pretty tight range to make this a fold. AT+, 88+, KQ is basically a coinflip, and with an overlay thats good yes?

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I haven't run the stove numbers, but assuming that the above range is 50/50, then I instacall, as I think SB's range is even wider, maybe AKs-A8s, AK-AT, KQs, KQ-KJ, AA-66?

What would you push in the SBs shoes?
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