Re: Why do players think they can do this when not in a hand?
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On a non-all-in raise, the dealer cuts the chips and counts out the total.
On an all-in, the dealer is to not touch the all-in players' chips until they are asked by someone else in the hand to count it down.
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I have never understood the why we should treat an all-in bet differently then an bet that is not all-in.
My own approach in NL is that if a player bets an amount that is easily identfiable I announce the amount of the bet. If the amount is not identfiable (but obviously a legal bet or raise)without breaking it down I simply announce "bet" or "raise" and do not count it until I am asked or it becomes necessary to do so to make sure that the pot is right or aother raise is of a sufficient size.
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