Re: 1/2 NL Middle set vs. 2p2er. DEEEP
Hi PB,
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I thought that he was calling PF there with pretty much any 2 that he raised with, mostly because he's on the button. Now, should i be raising more PF to combat that?
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You could write a whole book on how to play JJ in this type of spot, but here are some quick thoughts:
You don't need to reraise more, though I usually do. But, I'm guessing my reraising range is wider than yours (since my stats look more like aejones's). If your range is now narrowed down to a pretty good hand (rarely/never air), then I think 25-30 is good.
What you should be doing with JJ here, generally, is reraising to try to hit a set and stack him in a huge pot, or calling and trying to win a medium-sized pot with a little early deception. Reraising and then trying to play as though you were the guy who opened with AQ and hit a Q is a bad plan--does that analogy make sense? He's in position, the pot's getting bloated, you have a vulnerable one pair, and your hand is a lot more defined than his--not conducive to you liking the outcome. So, if your plan was to set and possibly win a huge one, kudos. If you were taking that in-between path I outlined above, then I don't like it.
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From your post, i gather that my turn check isnt just bad, but awful because it puts me in an awkward spot for the rest of the hand.
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Not necessarily. It's the board texture more than the difference in information that makes me think you should bet. I think with the 3rd heart out there, you need to keep him from being able to check behind and kill your chances of winning a big pot while simultaneously giving him a free card. If you bet into a LAG on a card that is obviously scary to you, he will often try to take advantage of that with a huge semi-bluff raise. If this is the kind of guy to make this move, then you want to encourage it, especially since you're probably going to have to get all your chips in the middle eventually if another heart doesn't fall. Inducing a big bluff will put some good results in the field of possible ones where a big pot is played. Against an unpredictable opponent, that's about the best you can do with a hand this big, IMO, which is why I love that style.
I would've definitely lost all my chips on the turn here, given the info provided. I would've bet 100 and called everything back. Worst-case scenario (discounting AA) is I have 10 outs. More common scenario is he has 7 or less (he says he would always fold a smaller set, here, but most players can't).
Lastly, I think aejones's point about not trying to force out KK/QQ on the flop, because that opportunity will still be there on the turn, is EXCELLENT. That's showing some nerve and some brains. Note that many LAGs are not disciplined enough to keep from pushing over a pot-bet on the flop with a flush draw, especially if there's some indication you may be picking on them. Hence, my recommendation to bet full-pot on the flop.
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