Re: 2nd pair no kicker 5-handed
I'm not a huge fan of this play. With five players in the pot, which isn't that big anyway, I'm wary, because one of them probably has a king or nine with a better kicker. Also, there are two hearts, so even if we are ahead, we may have to dodge eleven different heart cards, some other overs to our nine, etc.
I play 0.25/0.50 too (at Pokerstars), and I've seen many a strange slowplay from the fish lately. I've seen them call down with top pair or MPGK quite a lot, even call down with straight and NOT bet/raise on the river. So, even if our TAG friend doesn't have a hand, if any one of the other three fish call, we're probably screwed.
You're also tied to betting out on the turn by doing this. If a bad card falls, or you're raised, you'll be quite unhappy.
If you want to know where you stand, you're better with betting out, and making that the only money you invest in the pot unless you improve.
With the check method, I can't call, because I'm probably drawing to 2-pair or trips, but one of our two-pair outs is tainted due to the flush draw, and our trips draw might be tainted because someone else might hold a nine with a better kicker. I'm putting us on about 3.25 or so outs here. The pot's small, we can't be sure all the fish will fold, the TAG could have something, so I think we're in a bad situation here.
I'd probably advocate check/fold here. If you would have had the best hand, eh, that's poker. Pot isn't big enough to get that upset about it IMO.
EDIT: Also, just to add, if a TAG-like player limps, it usually means one of four hands: suited connectors, suited ace with a low kicker, two cards higher than ten that aren't strong enough to raise multi-way (TJo, QTo, KTo, etc.), or a low-middle pocket pair. A lot of these hands are capable of hitting this flop. I'm actually more likely to give the TAG credit here than if he raised pre-flop. He could just be using position to bluff, but with what he'd limp with, hitting that nine, king, or having a flush/straight draw is all likely.
|