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Old 07-11-2006, 04:42 AM
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Default Re: A few thoughts on rascism / affirmative action

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1) It's an attempt to get employers and people in general to stop believing the stereotype that white people are smarter because they're white. There is no way to logically equate the color of someone's skin to intelligence. To pretend that there is a link is ridiculous -- it's looking for patterns where none exist.

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There is a well-known correlation between IQ scores and race, and last I checked I think whites were nearly one SD above on average. Correctly establishing the casual basis, however, is tricky to do, and the AA advocates as well as the stat racists don't understand how to do it.

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Creating more diversified workplaces and schools will help people to realize this when they have a wider range of experiences with the other races in question.

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My girlfriend, who was struggling to maintain her 3.6 GPA requirement to keep her scholarship, was not too happy about the black kid who got a free ride and had to maintain a whopping 2.5.

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These past inequities, in which the completely under-qualified white was given the job over a well-qualified black, led to the current situation in which African Americans are made to start at a disadvantage due to economic hardship almost across the board.

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Common sense tells us that a business that hires underqualified individuals is doomed to failure. The incentive to hire good workers is inherent in capitalism.

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1) The poor white schmo is more likely, based simply on the distribution of white SES, to be a poor schmo because of his personal choices or as a direct result of the choices of his parents.

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What the hell is this based on? White people have to take responsibility for their poor SES, but black people don't? Couldn't we just as easily say that blacks are more predisposed to making poor personal choices?

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2) Here in the Detroit area, it is extremely segregated, so my experience may be far from typical, but my family members don't really come into contact with very many minorities (and they're friends with none). This allows them to believe stereotypes with impugnity because their faulty beliefs are never challenged. This is the other reason I believe that AA is fair in this situation -- if it helps the other people in the majority-white work place (if it weren't majority white, they wouldn't be concerned with AA, after all) come into contact with more minorities, it should, in the long-run (we're talking EV-style long-run here) lead to a more equitable, non-stereotyping society.

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So using distribution/placement methods for some and not others will make us all love each other? Do you think ignorant white people are going to take kindly to the darkie who just got an office position because of AA?

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EDIT to add: I'm not terribly familiar with employment AA, my response was based more on the college admissions-style AA where applicants are shown more favor due to minority status. I'm not sure if any employment AA works like that or not...

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Me too, actually. I'm just arguing from principle [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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