Re: Sticky Showdown Conundrum – I’m genuinely confused!
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First of all, what was the dealer doing during all of this, watching the soccer game?
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Why anyone would watch a game where a score of 2-0 half-way through is a blowout is beyond me. If I posted on the sports forum I'd blather about this but my guess is it's already been done. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Anyway, IMO the dealer was doing his job here. The original conversation went pretty fast, after Player A folded he stacked up the all-ins efficiently, returned a few chips to Player A (he had me slightly covered) and started pushing the main pot (from the pre flop action) to me. He quickly called the floor when I requested (I'm going to post the result and a few more thoughts elsewhere).
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Under the prevalent interpretation of the rules, and if, as a floorman, I chose to follow the letter of the rules, I would make player B show. I say "the prevalent intepretation" because I have read the Commerce rules and it says that if there is a call on the river, any player has the right to see all hands. This is interpreted by the casino as any player has the right to see all hands in any showdown. But the clear meaning of the words contradicts that; when it goes check-check there is no call.
However, now that I think about it, if player A was the only player demanding to see the hand, I would not make player B show. Interpreting the written rule to mean that in the event of a showdown, any player can see any hand, it would seem, at first glance, that he is entitled to see player B's hand. But since he mucked when it was his turn to act, there was not really a showdown. I think if the situation was reversed, player A checked, and then player B mucked, this would be clearer. But it's the same situation: the conversation is irrelevant; player A mucked when player B checked, thus no showdown.
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Good analysis, but if you were this wishy-washy in a public cardroom you'd get killed. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Also think how hard it must be to make decisions like this while five people are screaming for deck changes and getting seats filled elswhere in the room!. Then think how much harder it would be if one of them were "I__s" or "A____e"
~ Rick
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