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...My only point is that while atheists tend to be more liberal (blasé?) than theists, some of us have very similar morals and ideas about society for reasons not related to god or the bible. There are good secular arguments for most religious positions on social policy.

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I dont know how it is in america (I had assumed it was moreso than here) but many advocates of legislation like this in australia specifically argue from religious premises. Certainly, if there are secular reasons then they should be considered.

I was agreeing with what I had assumed midge was saying - namely that religious justification has no part in politics.

I'm interested you regard homosexuality as against nature, yet not institutionalised marriage itself. Are you sure that monogamy is the "natural" state of affairs? I confess ignorance, but I would have guessed that primitive humans wouldnt follow this practise (multiple partners is common enough in a society with entrenched monogamistic practises - I think it would be even greater without societal constraints).