[Borodog]

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If Roosevelt had not died, you can bet your ass that is exactly what would have happened. Except he would have arranged it so that it appeared that Stalin had attacked us.


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This just simply is not true. Attacking Russia was never an option. You are suggesting to prevent the East from being communist we should have lost many more millions of lives to do this?

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I'm not suggesting this at all. Stop reading what you want to read and start reading what people actually write.

I'm suggesting that Roosevelt's horrible understanding of economics would have driven him to perpetuate the war, just as it drove him to maneuver the United States into it (in both theaters) in the first place. He couldn't very well attack Britain or the recently "liberated" Europe; Japan and (half) of Germany were already under US monetary imperial control. That left The Soviet Union as an easy target for the next holy war to make the world "safe" for democracy. All Roosevelt would have needed was a trumped up pretext to attack, much like he created with Japan and Germany.

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We did not have the atomic bomb until after Germany was defeated. We certainly would have used it on them if we had. You do know that America was desperate to end the war? That's why we were negotiating with Stalin in the first place. I can't believe you would suggest that we should have lost maybe 5 million+ people to defeat communism. First of all we didn't know what the result of communism would be... i.e. from the 50-80s.

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Americans were desperate to end the war; Roosevelt was not. He believed he needed the war to either mitigate or camouflage his Neverending Depression.

And yes, people with an understanding of economics knew exactly what the results of communism would be. Mises explained what the result would be in the early 1920s (and it was perfectly illustrated as Lenin reduced the country to the Stone Age in less than five years during the period of "War Communism", 1917-1921; only a return to limited private property and limited economic calculation using external world market prices saved the Soviet Union from dying in infancy), along with being one of only a handful of economists who correctly predicted the Great Depression.

And not throwing hundreds of millions of people to the depredations of communism is not the same thing as invading the Soviet Union. You act like it's an either-or scenario.