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Old 07-03-2006, 11:51 AM
sternroolz sternroolz is offline
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Default Re: Vegas 8/16-10/20 or Commerce 9/18?

I play all three. My play is almost exclusively late night(after 9pm until 3 or 4am) on weekends. I contend that the daytime $9-18 at Commerce is too tight for even a good player to overcome the rake. Daytime $8-16 and $10-20 in Vegas is not ever worth bothering with most of the year.

Commerce $9-18. I have over 600 hours the past two years and beating it for $27 an hour Its very beatable...ridiculously so. Most of the players are awful. If you can beat $6-12 LHE anywhere, you can beat this game. But be aware that the games are so loose that swings are wicked bad. My worst downswing was over $3K. If you are just taking a shot over a weekend....a $1800 BR should suffice. Any less than that and you risk going busto on day 1.

Vegas $8-16. There is a game at Bellagio and a game at Wynn. Wynn is nicer and you don't have to think F.U. about any of the employees, but the games are much tougher on average than Bellagio. Lines are long. The game is no where near as good as Commerce's $9-18 but the rake is cheaper, drinks are free, and variance is low. Play standard LHEFAP and you will do fine.

Mirage $10-20: Some people don't like this game. But I do not think it is tough at all. Play a modified LHEFAP, being extremely aggressive in position. Steal and bluff a lot, except against the old guy with the glasses and the crazy hair. He is a decent player, but calls down with anything if he thinks you bluff. When the games gets loose(and it will if you get caught bluffing a couple times) adjust your game back to TAG.

Overall, it really depends why you are going.....are you wanting poker exclusively, or
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