[slartibartfast]

Jim, maybe I'd feel the need to talk down to you less if you demonstrated the ability even to read the other poster's (and even your own) comments.

You just now said that, "...NOBODY except for you is advocating a flop fold."

Mason55 says, "you're probably behind"

Schwerd says, "you can fold"

Poker Hoar says, "you need to find out where you are sooner than later"

Lucky says, "I'm usually folding here"

MDMA says, "either call or fold"

You said " folding is clearly an option"

Knifeyspoony suggests "they {might} have a monster"

If none of these comments suggest a flop fold then accept my sincere apologies for daring to question your impeccable poker wisdom.