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Big Jim:

I have actually bothered to think about this exact scenario and have taken a poll from 2+2-ers on the subject. I stated that most respondents think the min-raise means the nuts. I doubt this majority view is "completely incorrect", although it is certainly not impossible that you are miles ahead of the average poster.

If this is the case I'm not surprised you keep your valuable insight to yourself. I on the other hand have made my views clear in this situation; top choice - fold (as suggested by by poll results), next (by a long way) raise.

If you merely call you have delayed the exact same difficult decision to the turn, whilst potentially paying off better hands in the process. His small bet might mean the nuts, his large bet could mean the nuts, a non-bet could be a slow-play. Perhaps though you hit one of your 5 outs. Would you usually call a large bet with 5 outs? If you do is your 2-pair good or does he now have the full-house? Over 80% of online players are losers, I wonder what percentage of 2+2-ers pay their mortgage from the game like I do.

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1. your poll is pretty much useless. sample size, lack of a random sampling, not to mention voting could include players of limits from 25 NL to 2k NL.

2. this is not a "fold or raise situation". call is far better than both options imo. you obviously dont see why.

3. you have position.

4. if you raise the flop, do you think he continues with a weaker K?

5. if you call the flop, and he bets 1/2 pot to pot on the turn, and you raise him all in, do you think he continues with a weaker K?

6. if you raise flop, do you think he continues with a bluff?

7. if you call flop, do you think theres a chance he bluffs again on the turn?

seriously slartibartfast. this stuff should be obvious.