[dalerobk]

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where would you put in the players who will play any two but can narrow down your hand range effectively enough to take the pot away from you on a later street if certain cards fall? you've completely disregarded the times when opponents will play back at you and you will be forced to fold with the best hand sometimes.

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YOu're right. Thank you. My definition was not entirely complete. My point was that you have to do CB in good situations and very dependent upon the player. My experience lately, which I'm not sure is right but it's been working so far, is that I don't CB against tight solid players. It just seems to me that they likely have a small big pair. CBs seem to work best, for me at least, against opponents whom I have position on and who will call plenty of raises with weak hands. The chances of them hitting the flop are not very good, so you can often push them off. Obviously, if you know the player will make a play on you no matter what, then you should probably just take the free card. My overall point was that tighther/stronger players who call your preflop raise are much more likely to have a real hand, so it's harder to get them off of it with an xxx flop. Well, a weaker/looser player is likely to have something like J-10 K-9s, A-7o, so that a CB on an xxx flop seems to be more effective (assuming they are not the type to call you down with any pair). I point this out only b/c it seemed a little counterintuitive to me. Everyone seems to always say CB against tighter players and not agaisnt looser players. But this goes against my experience.

Sorry for not covering 100% of the possible situations. Is there anything else I forgot? Please let me know.