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Old 01-10-2006, 10:50 PM
chezlaw chezlaw is offline
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Default Re: Omnipotence Doesn\'t Imply Seeing The Future.

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chezlaw: If you're omnipotent, the only way to make something you cannot unmake is to devoid yourself of that power. Once you do that, you'll no longer be omnipotent

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I'm not sure what you mean by unmake but if you deny god the ability to do things that reduce his omnipotence then you are denying god's omnipotence.

A coherent meaning of omnipotence such as an omnopiotent being can do anything they want but in making p the case they make ~p impossible, avoids the problem I think.

So god can make the world in 7 days but that entails not making it in 8 days. god can flip a random coin but then cant predict the outcome.

and if god really wants to he can commit deicide.

chez

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om·nip·o·tent ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-np-tnt)
adj.
Having unlimited or universal power, authority, or force; all-powerful. See Usage Note at infinite.

n.
One having unlimited power or authority: the bureaucratic omnipotents.
Omnipotent God. Used with the.

God is supposed to be able to do anything if he is omnipotent.

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Yes thats what I'm saying to. So anyone who says he cant do something (like make a coin flip random)has a problem as well.

The resolution is to make omnipotent coherent or just give up on reason because of a silly mis-interpretaion of the word unlimited.
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