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QQ vs 3 callers

I have given these callers folowing ranges a)top20% b)top40% c)random hand - I think these are reasonable.

on a ragged A high flop...
37,252,619 games 99.719 secs 373,575 games/sec

Board: Ac 9h 3d
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 28.4993 % 28.34% 00.16% { QcQd }
Hand 2: 30.9066 % 30.18% 00.72% { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 3: 25.7254 % 25.00% 00.72% { 44+, A2s+, K2s+, Q4s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, A3o+, K7o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T9o }
Hand 4: 14.8687 % 14.50% 00.37% { random }

2 overcards...
7,413,141 games 22.594 secs 328,102 games/sec

Board: 9h Ad Kc
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 15.1092 % 14.75% 00.36% { QcQd }
Hand 2: 40.0912 % 38.35% 01.74% { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 3: 32.3684 % 30.58% 01.79% { 44+, A2s+, K2s+, Q4s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, A3o+, K7o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T9o }
Hand 4: 12.4312 % 11.58% 00.85% { random }

2flush A high flop
10,155,929 games 26.875 secs 377,895 games/sec

Board: 9h 3h Ac
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 25.7597 % 25.61% 00.15% { QcQd }
Hand 2: 31.6422 % 30.98% 00.66% { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 3: 26.9605 % 26.30% 00.66% { 44+, A2s+, K2s+, Q4s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, A3o+, K7o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T9o }
Hand 4: 15.6376 % 15.30% 00.34% { random }

Broadway K high 2flush
9,640,745 games 27.500 secs 350,572 games/sec

Board: Td Ks Js
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 35.9728 % 31.96% 04.01% { QcQd }
Hand 2: 30.1485 % 27.35% 02.79% { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 3: 21.8488 % 19.42% 02.43% { 44+, A2s+, K2s+, Q4s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, A3o+, K7o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T9o }
Hand 4: 12.0299 % 10.58% 01.45% { random }

I'd bet on the last one - but only as we have OESD outs to go with our set outs. If we flop no draw at all I am not putting another cent into the pot vs three callers.

We are an underdog in all of the first 3 situations vs 3 callers with pretty wide ranges.

The more people call the more chance there is that one of them connected with the flop and that our pretty one pair hand is toast.

This is at a 6-max table - the number of times I get 3 callers to a pfr is minimal - this happens very very rarely - when it does if I flop no draw I am outta there - I don't think I am losing much value here.

Why continue on a bad flop vs that many villains - you are asking for trouble. There are many other better spots with more EV to throw your chips at than a dodgy flop with a multiway action when you only hold one pair.

More often than not if you bet a flop with three or more callers one of them WILL call and at best then you are *slightly* ahead and more than likely a significant dog to win the SD.

Playing online people Love to play Aces I think you can also bet the farm that if three callers call my(suitably hefty) pfr then one of them has an Ace for sure...

If an Ace flops then I am extra cautious.

So I fold the flop - I've lost perhaps as much as 30% equity in a small pot and I'm out the minor amount of a preflop raise. I'm not losing any sleep over that - I simply reload if need be to get my stack back to a minimum of 100BB and play the next hand - if it turns out I folded the best hand, whatever I'll takes notes that the callers are looser than normal and move on. There are other better spots I can bet on.

Am I really so wrong here??