Re: \"I have a big hand and pot odds. I fold\"
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Don't apologize that some don't get it. A crucial skill lacking in some of the best players is on display here, and it isn't your fault some are unable to pick up on it.
And good god people, don't underestimate the value of saving 8BBs and playing on. "I'll have nothing left so I might as well call" when the truth is you'll have 8BBs is just so bad, and yet so prevalent. One steal and one double up and you are at 20BBs, for god's sake.
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I don't think that's the main problem people have with the hand. The problem is that in order to make this a good fold you need to narrow his range to AA, a J, or QQ. If you include even just KK in there - and on this board, don't you think many players are going to play KK like essentially the mortal nuts? - to make it a fold you're going to need to include a pretty wide range of J's. There are 2 AJ's, 3 QJ's, 4 KJ's, 4 JT's. So you're going to need to go out to J9 or so. If you include TT as well, another hand which seems eminently reasonable for villain to have, you're going to need to include just about every possible J holding in the deck to make it a fold, which isn't realistic for even the donkiest of players.
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