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While your post is eloquent, it is of course your side of the story. I highly doubt you'd actually 100% fess up to slow rolling and other poor table etiquette if you were actually engaged in them.

I wasn't there of course so I have no idea what was actually said or done, so I can't cast judgements or defend you. However people rarely just make up a whole bunch of stuff like this.

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I find this amusing to finally go to the third page and uncover the only sensible response in this thread. You fellow 2+2'rs are that easily influenced? I laud Vanessa's courage to come onto the forums and state her side of the story. I extend my congratulations to your finish. But to my fellow 2+2'rs how do you guys easily buy into this? Is there not a vigilant eye around here?

"Great post!! Ignore those childish remarks!! Everyone's always hating on the successful people!"

You guys seem to forget it's not just a bunch of vengeful posters criticizing Vanessa out of pure $hits and giggles. Are you guys saying Jean Gluck and Liz are fabricating lies? Vanessa's post has implied this. What about the other reports, like the J high flush vs. Q high flush incident? Are people just making up stories out of pure jealousy? And why on Vanessa? Why did no one rag on Erica or Evelyn if the poker world is so mysogynistic? What's the "accuser's" motive? We're obviously not getting the real story, and I guess we never will. But it's not like everyday there are some character assasins waiting to pounce on the game's new star. We have rather credible sources that are making claims.

I'm not saying her post is BS, but like a poster said, it's not like she would admit to slow rolling or bad etiquette. No one likes to admit they're a bad person or consciously doing something wrong. Who's going to admit to that? Usually people will respond for their acts in the, "Oh it didn't happen," "Oh I didn't know," "Oh that's total BS..people are out to hate on me," defense. Only Vanessa knows herself, and if she's content with her actions then so be it.

I'm not here on some crusade to belittle Vanessa's accomplishments. She sounds like a very talented woman. Many posters have also said she's very nice as well. I was rooting for her to make the final 6 and maybe even win it. It would be great for poker. But what's not good for poker is bad behavior and tv personalities demanding the spotlight. I'm not saying that's what you are, in fact I wish these reports are false. But if they aren't, then I'm glad Jean and Liz have spoken up about it. We don't need anymore Hellmuth's and Matusow's. We will never stop these types of people from playing the game. However, we should at least give credit to the people who truly perform and handle success with class.

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The reason that I (and probably many others here) thought her post was good was that the complaints against her seemed petty. I've seen these things happen so many times and even though I get angry when they do (a slowroll for example) I forget about it a few minutes later. For someone to come on here and start posting all this stuff about one person in one tournement strikes me as jealeousy and nothing else. I appreciated Vanessa's response to each one of the complaints and even though she is biased there's still a good possibility that other people saw things differently because they were not involved in the hands, as she was.