[andre006]

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yeah I think people are GREATLY underestimating the home country advantage germany has.

in 2002 the host south korea got to the semifinals

in 1998 the host france won the whole thing

in 1994 the host US actually made it to the 2nd round (a minor miracle)

All three of these were pretty huge overachievements.

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south korea had huge referee help

france was a fantastic team

USA didn't achieve anything noteworthy

I'm not saying playing at home doesn't help but this Germany team needs a lot more than that.

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you're right france don't belong in a list alongside korea and the usa.
they've proven it was no fluke by winning the euro(the toughest soccer competition)in holland 2 years after that
look back at the team:
henry
zidane
vieira
thuram
desailly (in his best shape)
trezeguet
to name a few

i'm surprised nobody mention the french team