[ChuckyB]

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lol. Shawn Chacon had 35 saves with a 7.11 ERA. I think that kinda disproves your point, no?

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Who's he closing for now?

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Octavio Dotel was pitching pretty much without an arm.

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Seemed fine before he bombed out as the closer of the future.

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For all those guys you mentioned...

Gagne <font color="blue">Was a crappy starter, never a setup man </font>
Mo <font color="blue">Remember when his setup man Ramiro Mendoza became a closer? Yeesh.</font>
Lidge <font color="blue">No argument. Stud.</font>
Dempster <font color="blue">see Gagne</font>
Isringhausen <font color="blue">what about Buddy Groom, T.J. Mathews, Brad Rigby, Ron Mahay, Blake Stein and everyone else he pitched with in Oakland the year before he became a closer? How did they do as closers?</font>
Todd Jones <font color="blue">Who begins their major-league career as a closer? (besides Huston Street)</font>
Danys Baez <font color="blue">See Todd Jones</font>
Joe Nathan <font color="blue">He was a starter too</font>
Chad Cordero <font color="blue">Stars don't come out of college and immediately slide into closer roles -- See: Matt Anderson</font>
Miguel Batista <font color="blue">Starting 89 games the 3 years before he closed doesn't qualify him as 'a setup man'.</font>
Eddie Guardado <font color="blue">Isn't he Rich Garces?</font>

And that's just last year.

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