[chezlaw]

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Doug - why is it inconsistent?

[/ QUOTE ] Sorry Chez missed this the 1st time around. Allways beingness. The only way a God could even have the knowledge of his always existingness, is if he exist outside of anytime barrier what so ever. We cannot say god always was if we have an element of time. For 2 reasons if there is time, god cannot be allknowing, for he cannot know if something created him. To be able to know he would also have to exist at a place without time. So it is possible that god's exist in a "time" different then ours, with the addition that he must also exists in some form without time.

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If god's timestream is eternal and he know that, then he know that he has always existed. He would also know that nothing exists outside this eternity. How he would know any of this stuff is a complete mystery but then how he would know simple stuff like what I had for dinner is also a mystery.

Knowledge must come to god in a way we have no conception of.

These sort of discussions always become a bit silly but its also possible that god chose to exstinguish his timeless element.

chez