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Old 07-21-2005, 10:53 AM
MaxPower MaxPower is offline
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Default Re: Comment on Greenstein Rating

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bodibble, anything that we point out will be deemed trivial and obvious by you. It will also be different things for different people.

Everything is obvious in hindsight and just knowing what you should do is not enough to ensure success. The more I move up, the more I realize I see that my success is heavily determined by factors other than my knowledge of how to play my hand and my opponent.

Maybe your experience is different.

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That's really unfair. At least TRY to post something that you thought was profound. Bobdibble isn't a troll, and neither am I -- we seriously want to know what we're supposedly missing here. It's not as though Barry is some chook from off the street -- he's obviously "Tier 1" -- but on the other hand the vast majority of what he says seems obvious, and only helpful to the extent that it's a straightforward reminder of the simple stuff (tilt = bad, rudeness = bad, scaring fish = bad). Is this really the "Take it to the next level" material, or is there something else?

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I don't have the book in front of me and I would probably need to read it again, but there were certain parts of the book that made me think about poker in ways that I normally don't. I don't think this has made any transformation in my game yet, but maybe it will. Maybe after reading it again I can give you a better answer.

I respect you and bodibble, I just have a different opinion (though I do have my own criticisms of the book). Unlike bodibble, I am not judging Ace on The River based on whether the topics he discusses are covered in more depth elsewhere. I don't think that is relevant.

Why must the material be "profound" to be important?

Why is it hard to accept that things that sound obvious are very important? These obvious things are not going to make much difference if you don't play poker well or if your opponents are extremely bad, but if you do play well and most of your opponents play well, then they will make a huge difference in your results.

There are many obvious things that everyone knows they should do, but many people still do not do them.

I'm sure my response won't satisfy you. I assure you, I am not being purposefully vague.
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