[LearnedfromTV]

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So, what is the point? Are you saying you shouldn't be raising with these hands or something?

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I'm not sure what my point is. The reason I made the post is exactly what I said - it doesn't seem like I want anything but folds, given the situation - medium stack and everyone behind me covers me.

But clearly folding these hands seems wrong.

The larger point is that there is definitely a line of the type I'm alluding too. I'll raise 66 in EP/MP in some situations, but definitely wouldn't in this situation. Same for AT. 77? 88? AJ? Where's the line? What's the worst hand you raise "for value" here? What does "for value" mean when you face reraises way more frequently than calls? If it doesn't mean "good enough to call a reraise", why not?

In other words, is the parlay of

- the extra value of AQs and 99 over 73o after the flop if flatcalled and

- the likelihood of being flatcalled

enough that this in fact a "value raise" even though I can't call a reraise?

I want to think that it is, for these two hands. But there is a line at which it no longer is. Usually the line is at 55 or 66 for pairs and something like KJ/KQ/AT for broadways. But the line is a function of stack dynamics, so couldn't there be a case where the line is this high? If not AQs, AQo? AJs?

I'm bunching AQs in with 99 here, but maybe that's wrong. After all, AQs likes more flops and has less to worry about on the flops it likes, especially because AK almost always reraises.

I made the opening post without a conclusion in mind but I think there's a lot to think about with respect to decisions like these with a medium stack. Primarily, position plays such a big role in late-game medium stack play. Not only am I UTG+1 or MP2 or whatever, but relative position to bigger stacks. Raising in the CO with J8s and one big stack behind you (in the SB say) is much better, I think, than raising 99 in MP1 with 4 big stacks sitting behind you. Or, raising 99 UTG with the second biggest stack is much better than raising it in MP with a medium stack and two big stacks behind you.

If the above statements aren't true exactly as specified, something like them is definitely true. That's where I'm aiming.