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Old 04-12-2006, 10:42 PM
ShakeZula06 ShakeZula06 is offline
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Default Re: Internet Poker... doomed from Day 1

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From Party's T&C:

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7. Anti-Cheating Software.

We are committed to detecting and preventing software programs that are designed to enable artificial intelligence ('AI Software') to play on our Platforms such as, but not limited to opponent-profiling, player collusion, cheating software or anything else that we deem enables you to have an unfair advantage over other players. You acknowledge that the Company will take measures to detect and prevent the use of such programs and AI Software using methods (including but not limited to reading the list of currently running programs on a player's computer) and you agree not to use any AI Software and/or any such programs. To view frequently asked questions about this topic, go to our Unfair Advantage Policy.

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They basically say nothing about programs that a free, not-sold, or privately created. Could be a problem. Or, consider this problem:

As a community, 2+2 has access to many "public" programs (free or not) that many outside of our community do not. Do we have a moral obligation to share these programs with the rest of the world? Do we share?

Likewise, there are other communities in Slovenia, Hong Kong, and other (less known) places who also have "public" programs (free or not) that members outside of their community do not. Do they have a moral obligation to share these programs with the rest of the world? Should they? What if these programs are better than ours? Would that give them an "unfair advantage" because they didn't share or advertize?

I don't buy into this "available to everyone" theory. We do our best to acquire what we can and then conceal it once acquired. It's selfishly conditional and most definitely not what the sites want.

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First off, PT and PA HUD are not anywhere close to AI software. I've programmed AI software in the past an neither of these programs use any algorithms even close to what would be consider AI. They are dumb programs who simply collect data. In the world of AI programming that's a very tiny part of the work.

Second, since when has the 2+2 community or the writers of programs we use "hidden" them from others? You know how I found out about these programs? I read some 2+2 book, checked out the forums, and learned about them from members willing to recommend the software to anyone who posted. I didn't have to have X number of posts. I just asked. I would hardly call that concealing. Hell, anyone who asks me for help with poker I generally point them to these forums.

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Opponent Profiling?


PairTheBoard

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How many times do I have to say it-
Party Poker works with Poker Tracker to make it more effiecient. They have no problems with GT+, PAHUD or similar programs.
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