[MNpoker]

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I am sorry MNpoker, i did not see your post about PT. I was probably typing a response to barcley at the time you posted. I was also defedning myself from complete morons that wont have a discussion but would rather have a bashing. anyway to your post,

you agree that data mining is in the grey area, but doesnt PT keep track of ALL HH that you have had with an opponent? i was under the impression that any information in your HH was readily availbale to PT and could display said stats as soon as an opponent sat at your table. if this is true, it is close to the same thing as data mining. although you did gather the data, it is no humanely possible for a person that doesnt use PT to remember stats from an opponent from 7 months back.

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That's why it's a grey area. You have AWESOME notes that are quickly available. But you still do not have information that is not otherwise available.

I happen to think that's OK.

If you really don't see the difference between that and a bot I can't help out anymore.