[PlayaHata]

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I disagree that the use or banning of software tools needs to be considered as an "all or nothing" issue. I think it should be practical to say "X is allowed, Y is not," but so far none of the sites have been very successful in defining these issues let alone enforcing compliance.

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that is why i advocate that ALL programs be banned. mrmoo made a good point, that ethics is in the eyes of the user. because, in all fairness to every poker player, we cannot allow joe public to make the rules on what is fair and what is not, poker sites have to ban all poker programs to keep the playing field level.