1. You: "Israel is directly a response to centuries of European and Arab social and violent discrimination against Jews that culminated in the Holocaust. One of the main components of the discrimination was that the Jews were not a legitimate people because they had no homeland, and as such this ethnic homeland is a direct response to that discrimination."
This is backwards. Zionism is predicated on the claim tha you have so often made yourself: unlike Jews, Palestinians are not a legitimate people, but merely undifferentiated Islamic Arabs without any culture or even legal or national rights. Their lands and lives are therefore, and I'm quoting you here, "up for grabs." This racist attitude among Zionists is only slightly less prevelant today as it was when when Zionism's catch-phrase was coined in the early 20th century: "a land without a people for a people without a land." Of course, the land had "a people" and those people had to be ethnically cleansed from it, a fact the Israel and its supporters continue to obstinately deny in the face of all evidence.
As for the history, the Yishuv and its Biltmore program demanding not merely a Jewish homeland in Palestine but an exclusivist Jewish state were in place before the outbreak of WWII. The ideology, the army, and all other essential ingredients for Jewish statehood and the inevitable displacement of the indigenous population were in place before the holocaust began and proceeded indepdendently from it.
2. Me: "Israel was born through an act of mass ethnic cleansing, precipitated by massacres, indiscriminate killings and rape, and throughout its history has been a serial cross-border aggressor."
You: "Can someone explain to me how such ideas even enter your head? If any of this were true Israel would not exist today. There is simply no way that such assertions have any degree of truth considering that Israel currently enjoys the support of Jewish and non-Jewish communities around the world, who surely would not stand for such actions. Perpetuating such myths completely destroys any credibility you could ever enjoy except in the eyes of those who already believe such nonsense."
My sources for these claims, mostly Jewish and Israeli, have been cited to you again and again. The particular phrase I used comes from
IDF historian Aryeh Yitzakhi: Zionist militia in the 1940's committed "indiscriminate killings, massacres and rapes." For voluminous evidence, see Benny Morris's
The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited.
Your sources say things that embarrass Israel, therefore they are anti-Israel, therefore they are the result not of historical evidence but an irrational anti-Israel (perhaps anti-Semitic) bias, and are therefore unacceptable. Which reduces to claims that contradict my belief are therefore wrong. This kind of "reasoning" is a staple of right-wing punditry on all sorts of topics, hence the right-wing obsession with perceived bias: once you've got "bias," they think the argument is over.
But I digress as you perfectly well know that my claim is absolutely true, as it's been proven to you time and time again. After all, it was your hero, Ze'ev Jabotinsky, quoted all over the website of the Betar group you belong to, who acknowledged the necessity of ethnic cleansing: <ul type="square"> "All colonization must continue in defiance of the will of the native population. Therefore, it can continue and develop only under the shield of force which comprises an Iron Wall through which the local population can never break through. To the hackneyed reproach that this point of view is unethical, I answer, 'absolutely untrue.' This is our ethic. There is no other ethic."[/list](
The Iron Wall). Shifting to the left side of the spectrum, Jabotinsky's nemisis Ben-Gurion agreed: "I support compulsory transfer. I do not see anything immoral in it." And Moshe Sharret: "We have not come to an empty land but we have come to conquer a country from people inhabiting it."
So I won't waste time reading your post further. If you want to seriously argue and offer up historical evidence, do it. If you want to rant and rave, find someone else to read it.