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Old 04-02-2006, 10:57 PM
Fryguy Fryguy is offline
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Default Re: When the value of your set comes into question

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First of all, don't cold call with 44.

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False.

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You need implied odds to make playing these hands preflop worthwhile,

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True.

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and you don't get them when you pay two bets before seeing a flop.

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False.

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To get even with a set, you need to make 8.5 sb postflop when you see a flop right? 8.5:1 to flop a set, occasionally you win UI and occasionally you lose to a straight/flush/something else, pretty much a wash. If you play this same situation 9 times, you are going to check/fold the flop (probably) 8 times, and win a pot once.

If you are paying 2 bets each time preflop, this means you lose 16 bets the 8 times you check/fold the flop when you miss, so you need to win at least 16 sb the time you do flop the set.

Yes I realize these numbers are fudged, mostly because I don't like dealing with the half, but the concept remains the same.
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