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Old 01-05-2006, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: What About Israel Murdering The Wrong Guys?

1. Zionism was not a response to the holocaust but a direct offshoot of 19th century racial-supremacist colonialism. Israel remains a proud and determined ethnically supremacist state, unabashedly pledging perpetual adherence to the racist ideology of its founders.

This is a sick joke. Israel is directly a response to centuries of European and Arab social and violent discrimination against Jews that culminated in the Holocaust. One of the main components of the discrimination was that the Jews were not a legitimate people because they had no homeland, and as such this ethnic homeland is a direct response to that discrimination.

2. Israel was born through an act of mass ethnic cleansing, precipitated by massacres, indiscriminate killings and rape, and throughout its history has been a serial cross-border aggressor.

Can someone explain to me how such ideas even enter your head? If any of this were true Israel would not exist today. There is simply no way that such assertions have any degree of truth considering that Israel currently enjoys the support of Jewish and non-Jewish communities around the world, who surely would not stand for such actions. Perpetuating such myths completely destroys any credibility you could ever enjoy except in the eyes of those who already believe such nonsense.

3. Israel has killed more innocent civilians than all Arab terrorists in history and terrorism, defined as the deliberate use and threat of violence against civilians to accomplish political ends, has been a continuous Israeli practice since its founding and before. The worst offenders (Begin, Shamir, Sharon) rank among Israel's most powerful and respected leaders.

Israel continues to concede land given up in conquest - Israel legally conquered the areas in the 1967 war and continues to give up conquered land in favour of empty Arab promises to reign in terrorists. The creation of Area A is a direct concession on the part of Israel and was met with a wave of terror. Israeli responses and the Arab deaths that ensue therefrom can not be considered "terror" by any account.

4. Israel has never accepted that the Arabs of Palestine are entitled to the same national right that Israel considers absolute, inviolable and even sacred for Jews: a national home in the land where they and their ancestors were born.

This is absolutely correct and will remain that way until there is a degree of hope that such a state and israel's peace and security are not mutually exclusive.

Most of what you have written here is the official Arab propaganda line disseminated as a rationale for Arab wars against Israel, which historically have been intended as ethnic cleansing programs in lands seen as exclusively Arab.
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