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Shove or smooth call and get it in on an undercard flop?

With the third guy calling, I think I need to shove here. Right? Or do I call and get it in on an undercard flop? Assume third person isn't there, shove then?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t60 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 (t3555)
CO (t1652)
Button (t4340)
SB (t5399)
BB (t2925)
UTG (t6228)
Hero (t4080)
UTG+2 (t3378)
MP1 (t3065)
MP2 (t5635)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

1 fold, Hero raises to 250, folds to Mp1, who raises to 600, CO (donk) calls off nearly half his stack, back to Hero who ???

Re: Shove or smooth call and get it in on an undercard flop?

very read dependent... you raise 4x the BB and someone comes over the top with a 10x bb raise??? if MP1 is tighter than normal then I lay this down because his range is so tight... it would take some real balls to play back at a EP raiser with JJ/TT at this point...

Re: Shove or smooth call and get it in on an undercard flop?

Undercard flop. CO is pretty much allin anyways, if an ace comes you're likely not folding the best hand.