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Gregg777 04-10-2006 10:29 PM

Players who win the most tend to play straightforward. (Theory Post)
 
This is only in regards to 400NL - 2000NL 6max.

By "win the most" I am referring to the largest overall sum of money, not the highest PTBB's. I am not referring the "best" players on 2 or 3 tables who make killer reads and outplay you. I am talking about the players who take the most money off of Party.

Almost everyone of the top winning players, at every level from 400NL and up, play fairly straightforward.

They all tend to have a few things in common:

They multi table (at least 4, but usually 6-10).
They make very few mistakes.
They seem to know most +EV spots and take advantage of them.
They are aggressive, but not overly aggressive.
They do very well in the blinds.

I have no real point, the thought just came to me after reading the recent post about player's leaks. A lot of it has to do with making reads and outplaying your opponents. And while that is all well and good, it still seems that the top winners are worrying less about making plays, and more about playing as many hands of mistake free poker while exploiting +EV situations.

If you disagree, please explain why.

TheBeloved 04-11-2006 04:59 AM

Re: Players who win the most tend to play straightforward. (Theory Pos
 
bump/discuss

Big_Jim 04-11-2006 05:18 AM

Re: Players who win the most tend to play straightforward. (Theory Pos
 
I'd like to hear a little about how he decided what "straightforward" play means.

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And while that is all well and good, it still seems that the top winners are worrying less about making plays, and more about playing as many hands of mistake free poker while exploiting +EV situations.

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A large part of mistake free poker is making plays. Of course, "making plays" is very very broadly defined.

Unless OP is specifically talking about bluffing, in which case, he, of course, obviously has no real sense, since so many hands are never shown down.

soah 04-11-2006 05:22 AM

Re: Players who win the most tend to play straightforward. (Theory Pos
 
I think straightforward means no FPS.

raptor517 04-11-2006 05:25 AM

Re: Players who win the most tend to play straightforward. (Theory Pos
 
well, by 10 tabling avging 5bb/100 vs 5 tabling getting 8bb/100.. you will obv make more overall.. it takes more effort to constantly be making solid reads and making plays at pots that can be picked up easily.. when playing more tables its harder to do that so win rate goes down.. but all that really matters is $/hr.. so it breaks down to finding that perfect number of tables where you will achieve the highest $/hr.. im not really sure what yer getting at. holla

jkkkk 04-11-2006 05:27 AM

Re: Players who win the most tend to play straightforward. (Theory Post)
 
Well I agree, but mostly because its hard to 6 table while not playing 'straight-forward' and I'll take 6-tabling abc TAG over 2-tabling FPS anyday.

Percula 04-11-2006 11:56 AM

Re: Players who win the most tend to play straightforward. (Theory Pos
 
FPS = ?

KRANTZ 04-11-2006 12:19 PM

Re: Players who win the most tend to play straightforward. (Theory Pos
 
to say that you don't want to talk about ptbb/100 when you're talking about "winning the most" makes no sense. your winrate is a direct indicator of how much you have won over x # of hands.

as for talking about straightforward play - TAGs win, LAGs win. a TAG can have the same winrate as a LAG, with each of them playing their own "straightforward game." so what in the world does straightforward mean? i'm assuming OP is talking about playing nitty TAG - waiting for hands and making no moves.

that strategy will not nearly win as much as a player who can change gears at will and correctly apply reads/adapt to table conditions. ever.

IRV 04-11-2006 12:20 PM

Re: Players who win the most tend to play straightforward. (Theory Pos
 
It's a common perception to think that these players are str8 forward when in reality are the BIGGEST theives on the table.

mudbuddha 04-11-2006 12:24 PM

Re: Players who win the most tend to play straightforward. (Theory Pos
 
fancy play syndrome


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