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Flintoff 03-24-2006 06:30 PM

Good checkraise or could I have got more?
 
Both villains are TAGS. Approx 12/9/3 over a good sample.

It seems fairly obvious to me that MP1 has an overpair or AK. Very likely AK. Do you guys tend to check the turn and go for the C/R (as I did) or lead the turn, look to be raised and get 3 bets in?

And I know my preflop isnt great. Fold or raise in the SB, I keep saying it to myself...



Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, Button folds.

River: (10.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

archeyne 03-24-2006 06:44 PM

Re: Good checkraise or could I have got more?
 
This is a question I have had thought a lot about myself.
I am not sure the best way to go here.
It depends a lot on how passive the player is that you are playing against and if he is going to call you down if you checkraise.

I am interested in hearing others response to this.

TheHip41 03-24-2006 06:47 PM

Re: Good checkraise or could I have got more?
 
I just bet the flop like you did, I also bet/3bet the turn, and if capped, c/c the river.

If he has TT, he isn't betting this turn.

KEW 03-24-2006 07:23 PM

Re: Good checkraise or could I have got more?
 
FWIW, I like only calling preflop...I think with the button cold calling and a TAGs non steal raise raising in this situation with 2 offsiuted big cards is a mistake...Based on your read on MP holding I MAY c/c the turn and C/R the river...This is only an option...To go for a C/R on the turn would depend on my read on the button holdings and would MP raise with AK should I bet into him...Also how does MP play his big over pairs on the flop when bet into..With this flop a TAG will often call the flop to raise the turn hold AA or KK...

imashyboi 03-25-2006 09:51 AM

Re: Good checkraise or could I have got more?
 
Preflop - Standard

Flop - I prefer the check/raise action here because the flop isn't threatning and you can trap 1 person in between you and the preflop aggressor.

Turn - This is only a good play because someone bet out. I prefer betting out on an ace because they're more likely for someone to play an ace. We're not sure if someone who has a weaker kicker will bet out or if they just check the turn through. It would have been a horrible play if you check the turn and the players behind you check behind, you just gave them a freecard.

River: Standard. Maybe you can try for a check/raise again if this guy is a fish and will bet any ace or any pair on the river.

Chris Daddy Cool 03-25-2006 10:20 AM

Re: Good checkraise or could I have got more?
 
going for a checkraise is good, bet-3-bet is obviously a better result but that depends a lot on the villian's tendacies to raise with the turned ace.

James. 03-25-2006 10:45 AM

Re: Good checkraise or could I have got more?
 
i likely c/r the flop and lead the turn hoping to bet/3bet. i think he will bet when checked to 100% on that flop, i think the ace will scare them a good portion of the time when it comes on the turn. that said, it really depends on the opponents aggression level and style of play.

JoeyFrogs 03-25-2006 12:04 PM

Re: Good checkraise or could I have got more?
 
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going for a checkraise is good, bet-3-bet is obviously a better result but that depends a lot on the villian's tendacies to raise with the turned ace.

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