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JoeyFrogs 03-17-2006 10:42 AM

2/4 Turn, River - big leak
 
No reads on any opponents at the table; the first orbit. I want to know how you guys would play the flop, turn, and river. I think this hand is an example of a leak of mine.

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.75BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#cc3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (12.75BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#cc3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Results:
Final pot: 15.75BB

Hoi Polloi 03-17-2006 10:46 AM

Re: 2/4 Turn, River - big leak
 
You don't figure to have many outs on that board. Even a T may only get you a split. I'd fold the turn but the call on the river chews.

NB_Gambler 03-17-2006 10:55 AM

Re: 2/4 Turn, River - big leak
 
Well I'm folding to turn here.
c/c the river is spewing IMO

Mister Z 03-17-2006 11:01 AM

Re: 2/4 Turn, River - big leak
 
C/R the flop - your hand is very vulnerable. This hopefully gets rid of the player in between. If MP3 still raises the turn it would be tough to put him on any sort of bluff so folding would probably make sense.

JoeyFrogs 03-17-2006 11:53 AM

Re: 2/4 Turn, River - big leak
 
Thanks a lot for the input guys. I really need to break that habit of calling down here. On the turn, is it worth calling that raise because of the 4 ten outs? Or is that crazy too?

I know that I should c/f that river.

Jah Red 03-17-2006 12:13 PM

Re: 2/4 Turn, River - big leak
 
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Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J J
UTG folds, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 3-bets, 4 folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: 7 9 6 (10.5SB, 3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: 8 (6.75BB, 3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP3 raises, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: K (12.75BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, MP1 calls.


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I don't think the turn call is too bad. I mean, if he has QQ-AA he will probably raise your flop bet. So I lean towards AK. His turn raise represents the T...but I can't think of a hand other than 1010 that he is 3 betting and that is unlikely. I think you may be ahead at the turn, but dead, really dead on the river. C/F here.

Gazzbut 03-17-2006 01:01 PM

Re: 2/4 Turn, River - big leak
 
getting 10/1 to call the turn raise I think I would call.

dun_noo 03-17-2006 02:09 PM

Re: 2/4 Turn, River - big leak
 
Yes, the river is a clear fold. The raise AFTER the call by MP1 on the turn means he has a straight for sure, possibly a 10; I don't think we can count our T's as full outs...we may be able to fold here. But I think it's close?


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