Two pair vs. super nit
 

Button is like 10/3 , a super nit, almost always folds on the flop, but is pretty aggressive when he has a hand. His 3% PFR basically means JJ+ and AK. He is NOT the type of nit who gets stuck on overpairs, he seems to be able to get off overpairs if he thinks they're beat.

What's the best line here for extraction? (SB being in the hand is an annoying complicating factor)

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $115.50
UTG+1: $48.65
CO: $92.50
Button: $145.46
SB: $34
BB: $108.65

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero calls $1, UTG+1 (poster) checks, CO folds, <font color="#cc3333">Button raises to $5</font>, SB calls $4.5, BB folds, Hero calls $4, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($17, 3 players)
SB checks,
Hero ????

Re: Two pair vs. super nit
 

Fold PF, both times.

Lead the flop for like $15.

Re: Two pair vs. super nit
 

Don't like the pf-call but that's not the question...

Line1:
Bet 10$ and hope he raises with JJ, QQ, KK, AA
If he reraises you with 25$ and you call you'll have $90 for the turn and the pot will be $67. Check and push, hope he didnt draw out on you.

Line2:
Check, Button bets ~$15 with JJ, QQ, KK, AA, AK, if SB calls you raise, if SB folds you call and hope for non-scary turn (ie non-straight-completing card), check-raise turn.

If another 4 falls you will be done with it, yes?

Re: Two pair vs. super nit
 

I think here I'd check-raise the flop. You know a continuation bet is coming. If you lead out and he has A-K or A-Q (and I think A-Q, at least suited, is in his range), then he's definitely folding. If you check, then you'll get at least one bet out of him.

Once you check-raise the flop, he may fold his overpair, but, given his aggression, I think there's a decent chance that he will put you on top pair, an under pair, or a bluff. In that case, he will three-bet you (but will probably shut it down after that).

Re: Two pair vs. super nit
 

Yeah, a 4 would be a very bad card. Also an A or K is terrible, not necessarilly because it hits him but because it would kill my action vs. JJ+ if an overcard hits.

I was thinking of your line 1 &amp; 2 basically, was torn about which works best. Certainly line 2 is going to extract more from AK. I wasn't sure if it might lose value against JJ+

Re: Two pair vs. super nit
 

I agree w/ Big_Jim, fold pre-flop twice.

That said, lead the flop, call a raise, check/raise a non-4 turn.

Re: Two pair vs. super nit
 

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I agree w/ Big_Jim, fold pre-flop twice.

That said, lead the flop, call a raise, check/raise a non-4 turn.

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