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Kukla 11-16-2007 03:18 AM

Some common situations in 3bet pots
 
1.in position

Villain is unknown

UTG fold
MP fold
Villain(100bb) raise 4bb
Hero(100bb) reraise to 12bb Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB fold
BB fold
Villain call

Flop 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 25.5 bb)
Villain check, Hero bet 20bb, Villain call
<font color="blue">What is best line when Villain check-raise here:
a)normal
b)flat?</font>
Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (pot 65.5 bb)
Villain check, Hero?


2.out of position

Villain is unknown

UTG fold
MP fold
Villain(100bb) raise 4bb
Btn fold
SB fold
Hero(100bb) reraise 12bb Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Villain call

Flop 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 25.5 bb)
Hero bet 20bb, Villain call
<font color="blue">What is best line when Villain raise here:
a)normal
b)flat?</font>


Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (pot 65.5 bb)
Hero?

DonkeyOnTilt 11-16-2007 03:25 AM

Re: NL50:some common situation in 3bet pots
 
It may be the mucho beers, but I don't get what you're asking. However, once I put in 32 BB if I have anything thats TPGreatK or better I'm committed. You're never committed if you have nothing. In these spots if you have AJ+ I would think you're all in.

Kukla 11-16-2007 03:33 AM

Re: NL50:some common situation in 3bet pots
 
Sorry [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] i forgot to say that hero has QQ.

DonkeyOnTilt 11-16-2007 03:37 AM

Re: NL50:some common situation in 3bet pots
 
Well in that case after putting that much in I tend to feel committed, but I get stacked a lot in these situations. I go for broke in either case.

Kukla 11-16-2007 03:42 AM

Re: NL50:some common situation in 3bet pots
 
[ QUOTE ]
In these spots if you have AJ+ I would think you're all in.


[/ QUOTE ]
The main point is why i ask it, is that villain unknown for us and we can't exactly say somethig about his range. So there is no any draw on board and situation some tricky for me because if his range like TT+ it destroy us and we can't just bet and commit itself, if he try to trap us with AK e.t.c. we can't check because he would bet it.

DonkeyOnTilt 11-16-2007 03:45 AM

Re: NL50:some common situation in 3bet pots
 
True enough, but I run into a lot of villians that would put a lot of money in with merely a T so in your case QQ is crushing. I think this question needs numbers or reads.


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