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Dialect 11-15-2007 08:11 PM

Pair + Flush Draw strong enough to push?
 
Villain is the reason I'm at this table, running 40/21/2 over 100 hands. No real reads.

Push or what?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $31.20
Hero (UTG): $149.20
CO: $126.30
BTN: $56.65
SB: $145.30

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $3.50, SB calls $3, BB folds

Flop: ($11.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $35.50</font>,

the machine 11-15-2007 08:30 PM

Re: Pair + Flush Draw strong enough to push?
 
is this chelsea? if so id say no.

markuisis 11-15-2007 08:32 PM

Re: Pair + Flush Draw strong enough to push?
 
id shove, it makes u seem aggro, u have great equity even if u dont have much fold equity, i doubt he is raising this big with a set.

sh58 11-15-2007 09:33 PM

Re: Pair + Flush Draw strong enough to push?
 
i would shove here. he will be bluffing alot and you hardly need any FE as you are basically flipping with his calling range

pureklas 11-15-2007 10:05 PM

Re: Pair + Flush Draw strong enough to push?
 
Depends on you really... how much do you like variance and to gamble? At the minute you have hardly anything invested in the pot so a fold is not out of the question. Normally I would shove as you have decent equity in the hand and decent fold equity. However in this case it's difficult to imagine you have any fold equity given the size of his raise and your flush outs may not even be good, so I would fold this one.

dirtylobster 11-15-2007 10:15 PM

Re: Pair + Flush Draw strong enough to push?
 
For 100bb, sure. 150bb? Hmm. Borderline imo.

TheGreenMile 11-15-2007 10:15 PM

Re: Pair + Flush Draw strong enough to push?
 
lol i saw an almost identical hand at 1/2 today.. c/raiser was like 36/23/2 and did this with just an open ender against the pfraiser's bottom pair and flush draw.. since i don't think 67, j9, or 79 can be ruled out against this type of player and since we have good equity v everything but a set, i think i get it in here.

oh and do you have any flop check raises on the hands you have on him btw?

RiverFenix 11-16-2007 12:03 AM

Re: Pair + Flush Draw strong enough to push?
 
Never wrong to jam w/ this many outs &amp; fe.

Paul Thomson 11-16-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Pair + Flush Draw strong enough to push?
 
push...stack sizes are pretty good.


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