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scott2130 11-14-2007 09:29 AM

Do You Fold the River
 
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (8.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero ?

Fadook 11-14-2007 09:32 AM

Re: Do You Fold the River
 
Bet/fold the river. As played I call.

LateFlag 11-14-2007 09:36 AM

Re: Do You Fold the River
 
Bet/Fold &gt; Check/Call &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt ; Check/Fold

Douglas Leslie 11-14-2007 09:43 AM

Re: Do You Fold the River
 
Unless I know the pre-flop raise is likely to be a bit loose, I just call here.
Why check the river? I prefer to bet and fold if I get raised.

LukeSLTS 11-14-2007 09:52 AM

Re: Do You Fold the River
 
Any read on villain?

I would have to be playing against the rockiest of rocks to fold here. As played this is a clear call. I disagree with the other responses so far that want a bet/fold on the river. I prefer the check/call here against many villains because that card is a great card for the villain to run a bluff with.

KaatzMeow 11-14-2007 10:40 AM

Re: Do You Fold the River
 
I would call UTG1'raise Preflop since you equity is about 30% given the ranges of UTG1 &amp; the cold call by CO.

The Flop is good.

The Turn is good.

On the River I check/call since CO comes alive and what hand does he call that you beat?

LateFlag 11-14-2007 10:43 AM

Re: Do You Fold the River
 
[ QUOTE ]
On the River I check/call since CO comes alive and what hand does he call that you beat?

[/ QUOTE ]

Any A. Any J. Any 3. Any pocket underpair he called the earlier streets with.

Mitke 11-14-2007 11:09 AM

Re: Do You Fold the River
 
* g *

As played, no - I don't fold the river.

Without reads I assume he is just betting with an A when you show weakness. A flush is possible with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (or A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]). If he likes to call 3-bets cold with KQ/KJ preflop or doesn't raise turn with AK then you would like to play with him in the future as well.

Bet the river. I think you can crying call a raise too if you have any reads he's capable of bluffing.

EDIT: he could be betting any of his holdings on the river when you show weakness.

chr1s82p 11-14-2007 11:33 AM

Re: Do You Fold the River
 
what can you say about the ranges? it is micro-stakes and AQs is a good starting hand for a reraise preflop when you don't know anything about your opponents, imo.

scott2130 11-14-2007 12:34 PM

Re: Do You Fold the River
 
I 3-bet to isolate the UTG player. I have been running bad and figured with AQs I had better chances heads up.

As for reads, this is .5/1 and they play anything, sometimes correctly.


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