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OhioSt2k 11-09-2007 11:09 PM

NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop
 
villain is cmitch and we have some history of getting stacks in the pot over the last 2 days.
he is aggressive and loose 20+/15+/2+ type stats. help me with flop play

FullTiltPoker Game #3969315884: Table Trails End (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:59:39 ET - 2007/10/26
Seat 1: PlzFoldxX ($456)
Seat 2: cmitch ($463)
Seat 3: doc355 ($322.90)
Seat 4: philuva ($612.70)
Seat 5: motiv4 ($828.65)
Seat 6: HERO ($768.65)
motiv4 posts the small blind of $2
HERO posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #4

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [9c 6c]
PlzFoldxX has 15 seconds left to act
PlzFoldxX folds
cmitch raises to $14
doc355 folds
philuva folds
motiv4 folds
HERO calls $10

*** FLOP *** [Ts 6d 9h]
HERO checks
cmitch bets $20
HERO raises to $72
cmitch has 15 seconds left to act
cmitch raises to $184
HERO ????


villain is strong tag with 18/14/2 stats. i call with the intention of trapping
played well or not ?

POKERSTARS GAME #12849310037: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2007/10/25 - 23:33:42 (ET)
Table 'Icarion II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: HERO ($580 in chips)
Seat 2: F.Savage ($406.80 in chips)
Seat 3: farlzz ($604 in chips)
Seat 4: pablostar ($439 in chips)
Seat 6: NE1_Call ($400 in chips)
farlzz: posts small blind $2
pablostar: posts big blind $4

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Kd Kh]
NE1_Call: folds
HERO: raises $12 to $16
F.Savage: raises $32 to $48
farlzz: folds
pablostar: folds
HERO: calls $32

*** FLOP *** [8s 2s 2c]
HERO: checks
F.Savage: bets $68
HERO: raises $176 to $244
F.Savage: calls $176

*** TURN *** [8s 2s 2c] [4h]
HERO: bets $288 and is all-in
F.Savage: calls $114.80 and is all-in

*** RIVER *** [8s 2s 2c 4h] [3h]


we are short handed and villain has been PFR an PF-RR quite a bit.
when he just calls m flop raise i get spooked and dont know how to proceed.

FullTiltPoker Game #3968054884: Table Vintners (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:47:38 ET - 2007/10/25
Seat 1: LeNewbian ($406)
Seat 3: Mano Nera ($189.65)
Seat 5: HERO ($751.40)
HERO posts the small blind of $2
LeNewbian posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #3

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Tc Ac]
Mano Nera folds
HERO raises to $14
LeNewbian raises to $42
HERO calls $28

*** FLOP *** [4d Ad Ks]
HERO checks
LeNewbian bets $50
HERO raises to $125 <-- bad spot to CR???
LeNewbian calls $75

*** TURN *** [4d Ad Ks] [7h]
HERO has 15 seconds left to act
HERO checks
LeNewbian bets $239, and is all in
HERO ???

villain loves to min-raise and min-re-raise. i havent seen him turn up with much except one hand where he called ai with half stack on a Q73 board with TT.

praios 11-09-2007 11:39 PM

Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop
 
use a hand converter

Yeti 11-09-2007 11:43 PM

Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop
 
er praios have you EVER used a hand converter?

cbboy 11-09-2007 11:56 PM

Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop
 
And praios, thats where you say "touche!"

Hahaha! Don't tell people to use a hand converter when you have never used one.

OhioSt2k 11-10-2007 12:16 AM

Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop
 
sorry about the converter i will look into it next time.

what about the hands

cbboy 11-10-2007 12:30 AM

Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop
 
Try looking into it this time. It doesn't take that long to convert the hands.

Your Mom 11-10-2007 12:51 AM

Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop
 
1. Get it in
2. Fine
3. Your C/r sucks

PartysOver 11-10-2007 01:00 AM

Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop
 
[ QUOTE ]
1. Get it in
2. Fine
3. Your C/r sucks

[/ QUOTE ]

i further respond:

1) get it in as played. generally fold pre because, with history, you won't have fe post flop to make this hand profitable imo

2) you flat call to trap. whats the question?

LucidDream 11-10-2007 01:07 AM

Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
1. Get it in
2. Fine
3. Your C/r sucks

[/ QUOTE ]

i further respond:

1) get it in as played. generally fold pre because, with history, you won't have fe post flop to make this hand profitable imo

2) you flat call to trap. whats the question?

[/ QUOTE ]

and i'll further respond

3) if you find yourself making this c/r alot in these types of spots, then yes you do suck postflop. if you don't know how you will play the turn when called you shouldn't c/r the flop.

AAismyfriend 11-10-2007 06:47 AM

Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop
 
I fold preflop in hand 1, but get it in as played.

Hand 2 looks good

Hand 3 fold preflop, and whatever you do.....don't c/r the flop [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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