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fooz 11-08-2007 02:26 AM

3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board
 
The table had just broken down from 6 players to the 3 of us.

Villain is 20/17/4.8 after 1400 hands.

He'd recently been pretty active. 3betting me a couple times preflop, raise/4betting me off a hand, and playing postflop quite aggressively (as usual).

On this hand, he insta-shoved after I bet. Do you call?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
3 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Button: $264.80
SB: $234.50
fooz: $200

Pre-flop: (3 players) fooz is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">fooz raises to $29</font>, SB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($58, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">fooz bets $42</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $205.5</font>, fooz?

Casper05 11-08-2007 02:33 AM

Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board
 
what? of course you don't call

fooz 11-08-2007 10:49 AM

Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board
 
Hmmmm. I folded on this hand, but I actually think I might've been ahead.

My cb% is 90+%. I think he shoves a lot of pocket pairs + some hands like AQ. I'll be calling the next time for sure.

TheGreenMile 11-08-2007 10:59 AM

Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board
 
i think its closer then it looks at first glance.. i lean towards calling but i'm a station. does k9=Kq here?

deaders 11-08-2007 11:06 AM

Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board
 
bvb its pretty close, i dont know if i can fold it. I dont mind a flop check behind at all though.

shandyboy 11-08-2007 11:17 AM

Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board
 
if villain has AK, KQ he wants to get max value, i doubt he wd check raise as he's not getting action from hands he beats.

hard to put him on a 3, to me, this screams he has a PP or air, and he is pulling a move knowing u cant call without a king - esp with his agression factor which is relatively high.

i dont hate a fold, but i can see a call here for metagame ldo.

thac 11-08-2007 11:17 AM

Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board
 
With this being a 3-bet pot, I'd definitely consider calling.. it depends on what hands with a king he calls with preflop. Probably folds KJ and below, maybe has KJ. He probably shoves AK preflop - he's pretty aggressive it looks like. So like, I think this is aces or a middle pocket pair making a move, and there are way more combos of a middle pocket pair than there are of aces.

HoldEmNewby 11-08-2007 12:27 PM

Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board
 
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bvb its pretty close, i dont know if i can fold it. I really like a flop check behind.

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My thoughts almost exactly.

theplux 11-08-2007 12:27 PM

Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board
 
im a crazy cbeter and I dont cb this flop here :\

skates 11-08-2007 12:38 PM

Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board
 
check flop, as played, call. If your CBet% is 90+, you're betting this flop with air alot. His shove is more consistent with a medium pocket pair A/x than a better king. FWIW, if you're betting this flop and folding everything but KJ+, I'm check/shoving any two... read this as "if you're betting this flop with a king, you must call a shove".


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