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orucker 11-07-2007 10:12 AM

2nd hand $5 freezeout
 
Full Tilt (8 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Preflop: hero is CO with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/kd.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/kh.gif. SB posts a blind of 15.
[color=#666666]1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]hero raises</font>, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ah.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/5c.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/7s.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, hero checks.

Turn: http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/6c.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
BB checks, [color=#CC3333]UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, hero folds, BB calls.
BB checks, UTG checks.

Final Pot:

Results in white below: [color=#FFFFFF]
No showdown. BB wins . </font>

Is this too tight a fold?

orucker 11-07-2007 10:19 AM

Re: 2nd hand $5 freezeout
 
and should i have cb the flop?

sapsuckah 11-07-2007 10:20 AM

Re: 2nd hand $5 freezeout
 
please use a converter that includes stack sizes and raise/bet sizes...

orucker 11-07-2007 10:31 AM

Re: 2nd hand $5 freezeout
 
my bad...

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: 1,485
SB: 1,470
BB: 1,545
UTG: 1,500
UTG+1: 1,500
UTG+2: 1,500
MP1: 1,500
MP2: 1,500
Hero (CO): 1,500

Pre-Flop: (45) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls 30, UTG+2 calls 30, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 140</font>, 2 folds, BB calls 110, UTG+1 calls 110, UTG+2 calls 110

Flop: (575) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (575) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets 120</font>, 2 folds, BB calls 120

River: (815) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks

Results: 815 Pot
BB showed T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Tens) and WON 815 (+555 NET)
UTG+1 showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Sevens) and LOST (-260 NET)

ThePershore 11-07-2007 10:42 AM

Re: 2nd hand $5 freezeout
 
He bet like a zillionth of the pot on the turn - I'd prob just call and try and get to shown down cheaply.

Fold isn't terrible though given it's 4 way.

orucker 11-07-2007 10:50 AM

Re: 2nd hand $5 freezeout
 
yea i felt dumb, should i have bet the flop they checked pretty quick but i didnt want to get raised

???

JammyDodga 11-07-2007 10:55 AM

Re: 2nd hand $5 freezeout
 
I think checking the flop is fine, you are behind a lot, and even if you rare best, you are getting called by a worse hand like never. You aren't really worried about someone drawing out on you, and if a q or j hits, you might get some action off a worse hand.

On the turn, I think I call, as the bet is pretty small, and could be a lot of hands you beat.

I probably check behind on river, but don't hate a thin value bet as long as fold to raise.

sapsuckah 11-07-2007 10:55 AM

Re: 2nd hand $5 freezeout
 
Raise more preflop. There are two limpers in already and you're giving everyone very good odds to call you, creating exactly what you don't want: a multi-way pot with KK.

I'm ok with the flop check but I'm definitely calling the small turn bet.

ettorek 11-07-2007 11:05 AM

Re: 2nd hand $5 freezeout
 
I like your preflop raise: but on an A high rainbow flop I cbet.
You are the aggressor so bet 3/4 of the pot and then probably just watch the other player folds:
if someone call you just fire again on the turn, if reraised you are against a great hand so just muck.

levAA 11-07-2007 11:24 AM

Re: 2nd hand $5 freezeout
 
Bet the flop.

As played call turn - of course this can be a weakish ace, but the betsize is ridiculous.


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