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robrobdoe 11-06-2007 10:05 PM

second nut flush
 
Flopped the second nut flush, but was met with aggression. Hadn't played with either player much, but they both seemed typically loose-passive.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP3 calls, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero...

Also, UTG+1 had only 2.5BB left in stack by turn. So is there merit in continuing to raise and trying to win a side pot with MP3 (who I presumed didn't have the nut flush due to passiveness)?

Gib 11-06-2007 10:07 PM

Re: second nut flush
 
1st to say fold PF.

Bet/3b turn slow down on river if capped (edit: oh don't worry bout this, just read UTG+1 was short stacked, if that's the case just keep jamming)

neurotiq 11-06-2007 10:12 PM

Re: second nut flush
 
I'd fold this guy preflop. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

As played, I'd c/r the flop.

On the turn, I also want to c/r. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Try to get MP3 caught between the two raisers.

Ghie 11-06-2007 10:20 PM

Re: second nut flush
 
2nd to say fold Kh,6h UTG PF.

I'd c/c from the turn and hope no one had Ah,xh

robrobdoe 11-06-2007 10:31 PM

Re: second nut flush
 
Heh, I know it was a bit of a goofy call PF but it was a fairly loose table and the last hand of my session (which isn't exactly a good reason but y'know...)

ckj 11-06-2007 10:38 PM

Re: second nut flush
 
Oh everytime I play the last hand of my session I win, so that's a good 'enough reason for me. One of the times I did it I flopped a straight flush. Too bad villain slowplayed the nut flush.

C/R turn and call down if 3-bet. Bet/3bet wouldn't be a bad line, but I feel you'd really be in trouble if you got capped, so that wouldn't be a good thing.

Gib 11-06-2007 10:49 PM

Re: second nut flush
 
[ QUOTE ]
Oh everytime I play the last hand of my session I win, so that's a good 'enough reason for me. One of the times I did it I flopped a straight flush. Too bad villain slowplayed the nut flush.


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so he had a higher straight flush than you? Was it a BBJ table?

ckj 11-07-2007 12:05 AM

Re: second nut flush
 
I won, he had A high (sorry think of that as 'nut').

maverickai 11-07-2007 01:03 AM

Re: second nut flush
 
[ QUOTE ]
Also, UTG+1 had only 2.5BB left in stack by turn. So is there merit in continuing to raise and trying to win a side pot with MP3 (who I presumed didn't have the nut flush due to passiveness)?

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Yup, he's shortstacked, he could be playing a lone hearts flush draw. MP3, like what you said, seems passive. He could be holding big overcards, or some mid-big pair.

Just lead out on the turn. But slow down if another heart hits the river.

kav 11-07-2007 03:34 AM

Re: second nut flush
 
:g:

fold pre-flop

the fact that UTG+1 has only 2.5BB changes everything. i'd check raise the turn to sandwich MP3 and cap if he calls utg+1 3bet (2 and a half actually haha)


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