Monster pot - time to fold?
 

This was my read, villain 1 (BB) is a big time calling station (put him on tens, jacks maybe even 8s - hed prob raise flop a bit with 9s), 2nd villain (UTG) just lost a big pot to me and is prob a bit tilted, i think he shoves kings or aces against me pf, so i put him on jacks, queens or adkd, he could have nines but id imagine a smaller raise on flop with top set rather than shoving - is call very -EV?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $89.50
Hero (SB): $235.65
BB: $214.25
UTG: $159
CO: $332.95

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $3.50</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, BB calls $11, UTG calls $8.50

Flop: ($36) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $27</font>, BB calls $27, <font color="red">UTG raises to $147 and is All-In</font>, <font color="red">Hero?

Re: Monster pot - time to fold?
 

how often do u guys think 99 shoves on utg's part rather than raising to say 85 or something?

Re: Monster pot - time to fold?
 

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Re: Monster pot - time to fold?
 

does everyone fold with this much action??

Re: Monster pot - time to fold?
 

u call close to never ur saying right? or r u saying he shoves 99 close to never?

Re: Monster pot - time to fold?
 

I wouln't take my word for it. I just stated my personal view. Why shove with nines when you can extract so much more.

Re: Monster pot - time to fold?
 

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I wouln't take my word for it. I just stated my personal view. Why shove with nines when you can extract so much more.

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alright, i agree, its such a huge overbet, do u think villain 1 flats a board like that with 99 much - maybe but prob not too likely. And if u think villain 2 shoves aces (which i think he raises pf into 2 ppl almost always) - then is it so unlikely hes pushing jacks, queens and def adkd or adqd? remember hes prob tilting.

Re: Monster pot - time to fold?
 

bb is a calling station and UTG is tilted?

why not shove? there's value even 2 bi deep... there's lots of stuff BB can't resist folding getting the odds he's getting when action gets back to him

Re: Monster pot - time to fold?
 

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bb is a calling station and UTG is tilted?

why not shove? there's value in 2 bi deep

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so shoving ur saying right? im not just calling obv i agree, so decision is shove or fold - and u say shove?

Re: Monster pot - time to fold?
 

im like never folding this...