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robosan 10-12-2007 08:14 AM

odds are right or ?
 
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1579157

sorry, converter doesn´t work correct;)

ok im new to omaha...i shouldn´t call this preflop because of his stack size right ? but is my call flop call ok ? i put him on aaxx and hoping he has no flushdraw ( dont put him on kk, at this limits only aaxx reraise)


thx for reply

herbstl 10-12-2007 08:17 AM

Re: odds are right or ?
 
is this a joke ?

you call with a pair of 8s ?!

thisnamedoesntfi 10-12-2007 09:35 AM

Re: odds are right or ?
 
If he has naked AA i.e no flush draw, then you have just under 40% equity. You would've been better off reshoving him PF than calling this flop. Gambol time.

jgunnip 10-12-2007 10:11 AM

Re: odds are right or ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
is this a joke ?

you call with a pair of 8s ?!

[/ QUOTE ]

Considering that hero only needs 31% equity here, if villain does have AAxx no draws than hero has 41% equity so In this instance its not atrocious.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3789477
pokenum -o 6d 5h 8h 7s - ad as qh 2s -- 3d kd 8c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing 8c Kd 3d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
7s 6d 8h 5h 337 41.10 483 58.90 0 0.00 0.411
As 2s Ad Qh 483 58.90 337 41.10 0 0.00 0.589


If villan does have a flush draw hero has just 24% equity here.

Folding to his 3 bet is out of the question correct? It seems villain is just deep enough where 4bet pushing isn't great since you have basically no FE and you're hand at best has around ~44% equity which is neutral EV for you.

Chaoslord 10-12-2007 10:24 AM

Re: odds are right or ?
 
you better off shoving yourself here to fold out a hand like AQJT, he might even fold QQ,JJ but yeah.. your priced in once u hit a pair

RoundTower 10-12-2007 10:52 AM

Re: odds are right or ?
 
no I think this is terrible.

shove, or check fold.

robosan 10-12-2007 11:37 AM

Re: odds are right or ?
 
dont get me wrong, i knew that my hand is crap and vs a bigger stack its an instafold without thinking but i was nearly 100% sure he raised his aces....with no flushdraw i have a decent amount of cards that helps me (i know its gamble)


thx for the replies


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