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mojobluesman 10-10-2007 05:51 PM

KK against Capper
 
No real read on Capper, but the game was generally loose and aggressive up until that point.

Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (21.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, CO folds, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (15.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

River: (18.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Final Pot: 18.25 BB

bozlax 10-10-2007 05:57 PM

Re: KK against Capper
 
Bet the river.

bravos1 10-10-2007 05:58 PM

Re: KK against Capper
 
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Bet the river.

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What does a sane player have here that we beat besides QQ?

mojobluesman 10-10-2007 06:03 PM

Re: KK against Capper
 
I considered that, but couldn't think of what else the other player had other than an AA or QQ that was afraid of the 2nd J on the river. And to be honest, it wasn't impossible that MP3 had a J and would raise me.

bozlax 10-10-2007 06:23 PM

Re: KK against Capper
 
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Bet the river.

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What does a sane player have here that we beat besides QQ?

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Not much, but wouldn't it be funny if he folded AA? It's also 50/50 he has QQ v. AA, and you're better if he might be a little nutty and have TT. And the other guy's going to call with his A9, providing some overlay

slothinator 10-10-2007 06:23 PM

Re: KK against Capper
 
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Bet the river.

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What does a sane player have here that we beat besides QQ?

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Could be overplaying AK or AQ.

bravos1 10-10-2007 07:54 PM

Re: KK against Capper
 
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Bet the river.

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What does a sane player have here that we beat besides QQ?

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Could be overplaying AK or AQ.

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well he could be overplaying 74 also...

bravos1 10-10-2007 07:56 PM

Re: KK against Capper
 
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Bet the river.

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What does a sane player have here that we beat besides QQ?

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Not much, but wouldn't it be funny if he folded AA? It's also 50/50 he has QQ v. AA, and you're better if he might be a little nutty and have TT. And the other guy's going to call with his A9, providing some overlay

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I also think that MP3 still being in the hand makes betting slightly worse.

bozlax 10-10-2007 08:52 PM

Re: KK against Capper
 
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I also think that MP3 still being in the hand makes betting slightly worse.

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Meh, he doesn't seem like much of a threat. More like he knows UTG+1 is a jackass, and he wants to see a showdown.

The only read we've got is:

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the game was generally loose and aggressive

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UTG+1's line is weird. If the field is aggro, I don't see him getting scared with QQ+ when the second jack falls, but I can see his playing like this with a hand like TT or A9s/K9s/KQ/etc; especially after Hero smooth-calls his 3-bet on the flop. Yes, he overplayed somewhere, but he's significantly underplaying his hand on the river if he has a hand that beats us.

Xylocain 10-10-2007 10:25 PM

Re: KK against Capper
 
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You should have cut the action because its MP3 that that concerns me a bit on the river ... what [censored] hand calls 3 cold pf, then calls 1 million bets on flop then more bets on turn... I cant see calling a 3-bet with KQs... but who knows. I think AJs or JTs (WTF!?!) is a large enough part of his range in combination with utg holding AA to not raise.


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