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fired_fury 03-02-2006 04:38 PM

deep stack live
 
5/10 nl with 20 bring in at turningstone...you have 4k and stacks range from 1.5-5k

you've been sitting at the table for about 45 minutes and have probably been too active

hero has J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the sb and tight UTG player limps for 20 with about 1500 behind; a not too active player min raises to 40 from mp with 4k behind; you call and utg limper calls

flop Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and utg check, mp bets 100, you call 100 and utg folds

turn A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

plans?

AZK 03-02-2006 04:39 PM

Re: deep stack live
 
check raise.

fired_fury 03-02-2006 05:10 PM

Re: deep stack live
 
assuming villian is not very active, do you really think you have folding equity here? what range of hands do you put villian on to make this play optimal

Requin 03-02-2006 05:13 PM

Re: deep stack live
 
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assuming villian is not very active, do you really think you have folding equity here? what range of hands do you put villian on to make this play optimal

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AZK, tell me if I'm wrong in this, but I think he's CRing to represent a set or, occaisonally, air. If this is the case, villain is often folding, sometimes calling, but pretty much never raising, so at least you get to see the river.

AZK 03-02-2006 05:22 PM

Re: deep stack live
 
well, wtf does his minraise pfr mean.

gol4pro 03-02-2006 05:26 PM

Re: deep stack live
 
Cr is Goot. He folds a lot.

mikech 03-02-2006 05:51 PM

Re: deep stack live
 

i don't like the flop call oop with a gutshot. but since you got to the turn, i think it's a check-call here. your draws are very disguised: the flush is backdoor, and both straights are gutshots; if you hit, it sets up a river c/r perfectly.

EmpireMaker2 03-02-2006 05:56 PM

Re: deep stack live
 
ALL IN IM ALL IN

CavMan 03-02-2006 07:14 PM

Re: deep stack live
 
why go all-in? we have a disguised draw and very good implied odds. i don't mind a check-raise, but i don't want to get all the money in on the turn since we will probably get paid anyway if we hit our draw on the river.

i don't know what the PF mini-raise means, but if villain is likely to have a monster, i'd rather check-call turn and check-raise river if we hit.

CaseAceJ 03-02-2006 07:31 PM

Re: deep stack live
 
I would check the turn and see how much he bets. If he makes a smallish bet for the pot size I raise him big. If he bets big like he likes the Ace then I just call. Then if you hit your hand either way on river I lead big with pot and a half size bet.


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