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Maksim 09-20-2007 04:10 PM

PL 25 - KK with A on the flop. River decission??
 
Can you please say me your action on the river?

Poker Room skin
Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.25
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $24.25
UTG+1: $24.25
MP1: $21.60
MP2: $42.15
CO: $3.00
Hero: $46.50
SB: $38.75
BB: $25.90

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($8.25, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($8.25, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero ???

AlexB182 09-20-2007 04:16 PM

Re: PL 25 - KK with A on the flop. River decission??
 
Problems start on the flop with this girly minraise.
I'd make a small value bet, I guess every A would have at least bet the river again after you checked turn (reason BTW?)
behind.

Mike Kelley 09-20-2007 04:17 PM

Re: PL 25 - KK with A on the flop. River decission??
 
Readless i probably check and expect to see A rag.

Maksim 09-20-2007 04:28 PM

Re: PL 25 - KK with A on the flop. River decission??
 
What I have to do on the flop then, if I am acting after him?

wikemang 09-20-2007 04:35 PM

Re: PL 25 - KK with A on the flop. River decission??
 
Check behind on the river, I'd expect any ace to call a river value bet.

Mike Kelley 09-20-2007 04:37 PM

Re: PL 25 - KK with A on the flop. River decission??
 
Acting after him is ideal. You should raise the pot though if you are going to raise here. I probably make it $5 or so.

I like it because it makes all but the best aces slam on the breaks or fold. and you win the hand when you don't have the best hand.

AlexB182 09-20-2007 04:48 PM

Re: PL 25 - KK with A on the flop. River decission??
 
[ QUOTE ]
Acting after him is ideal. You should raise the pot though if you are going to raise here. I probably make it $5 or so.

I like it because it makes all but the best aces slam on the breaks or fold. and you win the hand when you don't have the best hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

+1

Really, you have only two options here: folding or raising like a man...

Maksim 09-20-2007 04:56 PM

Re: PL 25 - KK with A on the flop. River decission??
 
Thank you for advises. He had KQ in his hand.

karlwig 09-20-2007 05:41 PM

Re: PL 25 - KK with A on the flop. River decission??
 
Check for sure. Had you just called the flop bet I'd maybe valuebet the river. But with this line you cannot expect to get paid by a hand you beat. I don't see queens call you here at all. I read above that you might get ace-rag to fold to a river bet, but I still think it's very risky. It's too late to make this hand a bluff IMO. Had you bet turn, gotten called and then got a check on river, it would probably be more safe to bet river expecting an ace to fold.

Maksim 09-20-2007 05:55 PM

Re: PL 25 - KK with A on the flop. River decission??
 
One question more btw. If I raise flop 5$ and he calls should I bet turn? I think it will be for shure he is ahead and would not fold.


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