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Binbs 09-19-2007 11:22 PM

AK nutflush draw, do I get max value with this line?
 
Vllain is 22/14 over 300 hands. Hows my line postflop?

Edit: Cant find a decent converter. sorry!

** Game ID 1623048825 starting - 2007-09-20 02:55:45
** Bexley [Hold 'em] (4.00|8.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- Condorcet sitting in seat 1 with $804.00 [Dealer]
- Binbs sitting in seat 2 with $1591.86
- banditos19 sitting in seat 3 with $1717.08
- WhiteLotus sitting in seat 4 with $800.00
- G0Gators sitting in seat 5 with $852.00
- Digithal sitting in seat 6 with $802.00

Binbs posted the small blind - $4.00
banditos19 posted the big blind - $8.00
** Dealing card to Binbs: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
WhiteLotus raised - $32.00
G0Gators folded
Digithal folded
Condorcet folded
Binbs called - $32.00
banditos19 called - $32.00

** Dealing the flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Binbs bet - $96.00
banditos19 folded
WhiteLotus called - $96.00

** Dealing the turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Binbs checked
WhiteLotus checked

** Dealing the river: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Binbs bet - $288.00

End of game 1623048825

TA3 09-19-2007 11:31 PM

Re: AK nutflush draw, do I get max value with this line?
 
I like the psb at river. QQ, JJ, AT will pay you off, maybe even small T's. Your bet will look like a busted draw to villian. I am guessing you are calling if villian shoves?

And I will bet turn sometimes.

Binbs 09-19-2007 11:34 PM

Re: AK nutflush draw, do I get max value with this line?
 
Yes calling a shove on river.

T-God 09-19-2007 11:42 PM

Re: AK nutflush draw, do I get max value with this line?
 
Not betting 280 exactly on the river is a leak imo.

AAismyfriend 09-19-2007 11:55 PM

Re: AK nutflush draw, do I get max value with this line?
 
I really want to c/r this river.

Unknown Soldier 09-19-2007 11:57 PM

Re: AK nutflush draw, do I get max value with this line?
 
nah betting > checking AA

played fine op

AAismyfriend 09-20-2007 12:16 AM

Re: AK nutflush draw, do I get max value with this line?
 
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nah betting > checking AA

played fine op

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Don't you think he value bets just about anything he calls a PSB with here? Also, c/ring here looks super fishy. I guess this depends a lot on how good this guy is. If I was villain here c/ring would be the best play for sure.

Unknown Soldier 09-20-2007 12:22 AM

Re: AK nutflush draw, do I get max value with this line?
 
problem is that heroes range given flop donk + turn check is mostly draws. Not sure how many villains would vb light here. It's close i think, but i think his calling range > betting range. Of course of the hands in his vb range he could decide that we are FOS and make a hero call. hmm, close spot.

Unknown Soldier 09-20-2007 12:28 AM

Re: AK nutflush draw, do I get max value with this line?
 
depends on banditos too. If he's fishy there could be more ts in heroes range making a cr good.

the more i look at it, the more i like a cr

AAismyfriend 09-20-2007 12:30 AM

Re: AK nutflush draw, do I get max value with this line?
 
[ QUOTE ]
problem is that heroes range given flop donk + turn check is mostly draws. Not sure how many villains would vb light here. It's close i think, but i think his calling range > betting range. Of course of the hands in his vb range he could decide that we are FOS and make a hero call. hmm, close spot.

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Yea, I agree for the most part but I still think it's super villain dependent. If villain is jfish or me or anyone else who's a value monkey with a bad case of FPS than c/ring is better.......if villain is more straightforward, betting def seems best.


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