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urbanati 09-18-2007 02:36 PM

I outplays him...
 
Villain is 22/17/2.8, light 3-bettor, so I called planning to float him but I also hit a piece...
I wonder if this is a standard turn bet.
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $200.00
CO: $200.00
urbanati: $245.35
SB: $460.00
BB: $189.00

Pre-flop: (5 players) urbanati is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">urbanati raises to $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $18</font>, BB folds, urbanati calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($38, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $26</font>, urbanati calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($90, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">urbanati bets $55</font>...

nitramee 09-18-2007 02:53 PM

Re: I outplays him...
 
standard indeed

Demogorgon 09-18-2007 03:12 PM

Re: I outplays him...
 
I think checking turn &gt; betting turn here. He might be going for stack-a-donk with an overpair and it puts you in a gay position when he raises. If he C/R's the turn with QQ+ you'll be getting about even odds to make a call so its not horrible but checking behind and calling a river bet on a blank and raising on 7,8,h is probably better.

I guess it depends on how often you think he'll fold 99-JJ

jfreels 09-18-2007 03:19 PM

Re: I outplays him...
 
that turn bet size looks weird to me and it seems that if the villain is competent he will push over you
I like a check behind or a larger bet on the turn

shpanko 09-18-2007 03:20 PM

Re: I outplays him...
 
I hate getting c/r'ed here. I prefer to check behind because we have a ton of outs now and might already have the best hand and we don't need to bet to protect it.

AggJedi 09-18-2007 03:38 PM

Re: I outplays him...
 
If you check this turn what is your plan on the river, how large of a bet will bet will you call on what card hitting? I prefer to just bet 3/4ths pot on the turn here as if you didnt hit the flop at all.

Pokerpudel 09-18-2007 03:41 PM

Re: I outplays him...
 
on the turn he has something about 200$ left so I would bet something like 75$ and call a shove obv.

Demogorgon 09-18-2007 03:43 PM

Re: I outplays him...
 
Huh? We hit middle pair on the flop. And now we have a disguised flushdraw. I think this is well played if we check the turn.
Don't see what good betting does vs villains range here, unless we have a nitty &amp; passive image he's prob not folding anything we beat to one bet.

13_Xerxes 09-18-2007 03:44 PM

Re: I outplays him...
 
I check, I like when he checks-shows AK UI and we win with second pair^^

BombayBadboy 09-18-2007 03:48 PM

Re: I outplays him...
 
I check it right back. Only purpose of betting is folding out JJ/TT and defending vs. AK.


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