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Rainclouds 09-11-2007 07:50 PM

Aces on a dangerous board vs a passive player
 
I posted this in the cheese as well (results of the hand are there too, but I'm leaving them out here).

Villain is 30/7/1.3, notes on him are 'limps with KK from CO and doesn't raise top set on river'. So he's very passive, calls a lot, rarely raises.

EverestPoker Game #2061819522: Table Dili-22 - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:50:03 - 2007/09/11
Seat 1: calamyter ($63.70)
Seat 2: ELaci ($20.00)
Seat 3: briquerouge ($100.00)
Seat 4: HassleDaHoff ($93.75)
Seat 5: julien00 ($23.35)
Seat 6: Toots25 ($130.60)
HassleDaHoff posts the small blind of $0.50
julien00 posts the big blind of $1.00
ELaci posts $1.00
The button is in seat #3

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HassleDaHoff[A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
Toots25 folds
calamyter calls $1.00
ELaci checks
briquerouge calls $1.00
HassleDaHoff raises to $8.00
julien00 folds
calamyter folds
ELaci folds
briquerouge calls $7.00

*** FLOP *** [7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
HassleDaHoff bets $15.00
briquerouge calls $15.00

*** TURN *** [7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
HassleDaHoff bets $45.00
briquerouge raises to $77.00 and is all-in
HassleDaHoff calls $25.75 and is all-in

Comments on flop and turn are welcome. Do I play it too fast or is this fine?

Suwalski 09-11-2007 07:53 PM

Re: Aces on a dangerous board vs a passive player
 
I probably play it the same, though ur often beat when he pushes turn. You can't fold turn getting those nice odds.

WP i think

murmeltier21 09-11-2007 07:55 PM

Re: Aces on a dangerous board vs a passive player
 
nh
i stack off here, too. this guy could have sooo many hands that i really can't find a fold. maybe MAYBE you can c/f turn against this guy, but i think that's a poor line against most players. KXc should def be in his range.

13_Xerxes 09-11-2007 07:56 PM

Re: Aces on a dangerous board vs a passive player
 
The turn bet commit you. I prefer to control the size of the pot : I bet 28$ on the turn, and probably fold if he pushes (zero outs...).

Casper05 09-12-2007 12:52 AM

Re: Aces on a dangerous board vs a passive player
 
Does he bet when checked to? How does he play IP- pot control or will he check a medium strength hand down?

If he's still passive (which I assume he is) I'd probably bet/fold 30ish on the turn...I think you're always dead when he pushes....but as played you really can't fold.

Rainclouds 09-12-2007 07:36 AM

Re: Aces on a dangerous board vs a passive player
 
Thanks for the responses.

Casper: based on my notes and my memory, I don't expect him to bluff when checked to.

My bets were so large to make sure to get as much money in as possible before a 4th [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] came out, but yeah the big downside of that approach is that I'm committing myself.

In retrospect, I think betting $12 on the flop and bet/fold $25 on the turn would have been the perfect play. If he called the turn, I could still have shoved a safe river.

He had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] by the way so I was indeed drawing dead.


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